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A comedy of errors: Wrong, again.

by: Thomas

Wed Feb 27, 2008 at 13:01:49 PM EST


Here's another laugh from our friends over in crazy-town.
Therefore this will constitute a formal complaint against the Andre Carson campaign. Over the last week or so, Mr. Carson's campaign has had two press conference in which Marion County Sheriff's deputies, dressed in their full uniform have been seen in plain view of the camera. This of course is illegal, not only for the Andre Carson campaign, but also for those deputies involved.
The claim is that police officers who appear in uniform in a campaign-related photograph are somehow in violation of the Indiana Code. The gang then goes on to cite the following statute as evidence.
IC 3-14-1-6 Solicitation, challenge, or performance of election function by state police department employee, police officer, or firefighter

Sec. 6. (a) A state police department employee or a police officer or firefighter (including a special duty, auxiliary, or volunteer police officer or firefighter) of a political subdivision who recklessly:

    (1) solicits votes or campaign funds;

    (2) challenges voters; or

    (3) performs any other election related function;while wearing any identifying insignia or article of clothing that is part of an official uniform or while on duty commits a Class A misdemeanor...
Careful readers, of course, notice that the part they leave out is what immediately follows the statute they so hilariously cite.
(b) This section does not prohibit any of the following:
    (1) A state police department civilian employee from voting while on duty.

    (2) A police officer or firefighter from voting while wearing any part of an official uniform or while on duty.

    (3) An individual described in subsection (a) from consenting to a photograph (or other visual depiction) of the individual wearing any part of the individual's official uniform appearing in an advertisement in support of a candidate or political party.
Whoops. Beyond this they have nothing more than their usual concoction of baseless conjecture and wild speculation. From a self-described "Citizen Activist" who is actually just a failed, disgruntled Republican candidate for City County Council, no less.

And it's also worth noting that this piece of code was actually intended originally to protect African American districts from voter intimidation on the part of uniformed officers. That's why you see the statute refer to "challenging voters" in the above citation. The irony isn't lost on me.

On a related note: Am I the only one who takes great pleasure in watching someone who endlessly complains about the local media copy and paste nearly their entire articles into his blog posts?

And you want to talk about a violation of fair use...Jeesh.

Thomas :: A comedy of errors: Wrong, again.
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cheap stunts (4.00 / 1)
i wasn't impressed by their last complaint, either, which was filed by the indychicken because andre didn't sit there calmly and let himself be heckled.  is this really the best they've got?

Well, (4.00 / 1)
there is something to be said for "not lowering oneself to the level of the opposition". Reacting in a similar fashion is just validating the other persons uncouth behavior.

[ Parent ]
What's the story? (0.00 / 0)
I hven't heard about that... What happened?

ELLSWORTH FOR SENATE 2010

[ Parent ]
that's pretty much it (4.00 / 1)
ernie likes to harass democrats.  andre doesn't like being harassed.  so ernie filed a complaint.

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Nice catch, (4.00 / 1)
and very timely too.

I suppose you ought to consider starting a standing thread for the "Daily Tempest in a Teapot" activities (of others).

Reading Comprehension. It's a terrible thing to waste.


I have full faith... (4.00 / 1)
...that the majority of the readers of the blogs pushing this have no interest in reading mine, so I would imagine that willful ignorance will keep this particular tempest going until further notice.

It is rather silly, though.


[ Parent ]
I think (4.00 / 1)
Gary Welsh reads your blog.

[ Parent ]
Oh, I KNOW he does... (4.00 / 1)
...the obscenity-laced tirades in my email inbox can confirm that.

[ Parent ]
Understatement of the year: (4.00 / 1)
Gary Welsh does not take criticism well...

[ Parent ]
He's an attorney? (0.00 / 0)
I mean jesus, if he can pass the bar... I might be on my way to a new career.

Hoosier Progressive

[ Parent ]
He's not a dumb guy -- (4.00 / 1)
...and like I've said a few hundred times now, I think he's done some great stuff in the past.

I just think his hatred of the Carson's gets in the way of his better judgment on this stuff.


[ Parent ]
I didn't say he was dumb. (0.00 / 0)
But I see a lot of attorneys who are frankly just not at my level and think that's what I should be doing.  And I never would have thought that a few years ago.  I hated attorneys.

Hoosier Progressive

[ Parent ]
Okay. (0.00 / 0)
That was totally arrogant.  Sorry.

Hoosier Progressive

[ Parent ]
Coming from (4.00 / 1)
someone who claims to be the voice of the people? No way!

[ Parent ]
I'm not the voice of the people. (0.00 / 0)
I just respect it.

Hoosier Progressive

[ Parent ]
Auris Populi (0.00 / 0)
might therefore be a more apropos name...

[ Parent ]
Welsh's riposte: (0.00 / 0)
Advance Indiana said...

   anon 3:07, I know about the exemption. I know it and you know it becaue I previously posted on it. Both my post and Adam's complaint are focused on the engaging in political activity in uniform while on duty and, as has been alleged, on government property. That is not permitted. Mr. Blue Indiana is simply manufacturing a story just like he did with the McCain ballot signatures. Both Adam and I are under attack from the Carson folks and the Democratic Party for exposing their unqualified candidate. Neither one of us are being paid for our work. Mr. Blue Indiana, who could give a damn less about the truth, is about spreading whatever propaganda the Democratic Party pays him to spread.
   3:18 PM EST

Whatever, Gary!


Yeah (4.00 / 1)
He also edited the main post in some sort of pathetic twist to suggest the complaint was centered on officers doing campaign activities "on-duty" and using "public facilities" for campaigning.

The first quotation you pull from his post makes it pretty clear though.  The complaint is at least partially reliant on the claim that law forbids officers from making campaign appearances in uniform.  That is clearly false.  


[ Parent ]
I love the new mantra from Gary -- (4.00 / 1)
"Blue Indiana -- Voice of the Democratic Party!!!!!111"

Let's be honest here: I'm 22, a college student, and got offered an internship with some ad hoc work for pay. I've only been in that office a handful of times -- I don't work out of there at all, and I doubt most would know my name or even recognize me -- and more importantly, I've never worked on the presidential race stuff at all so I can't imagine why he thinks my McCain signature fight was something they thought up.

Look over my posts and ask yourself this: If I were being controlled by Dan Parker via remote control, would I be posting some of the stuff about the 7th District that I've been posting?

It's deflection, plain and simple.


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I repeat: (4.00 / 1)
Gary Welsh does not take criticism very well...

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mabye I stepped on some toes? (0.00 / 0)
Ahhhh--i just love it when people twist things for their own use.... where to start?

Well first off--disgruntled? a bit--of course, I wanted to win the election (otherwise I wouldn't have run). I'll wait while you think....

...
...
...

On the contrary, I have been relatively happy with the representation Vernon Brown has provided these last few weeks; let's hope he keeps it up...

ok now for the accusation that I reworked the letter, I would be pleased as pie to scan and email a copy of the NOTARIZED and DATED letter fo anyone that wants it. My e-mail is funnyman67@yahoo. Step up.

lastly: I NEVER said that the picture in and of itself was illegal--you know what--I'll let you re-read it for yourself: sigh* here you go...

"They depict three sheriffs? deputies, one of whom is Kerry Forrestal (the other two names escape me at the moment) listening to Mr. Carson while they pose for a photo, and while they are in their uniforms. WHILE THIS IN OF ITSELF IS NOT ILLEGAL BY STATE STATUTE..."

are we all caught up?

I await the onslaught....


Blame Gary Welsh (0.00 / 0)
It looks like Gary Welsh by poor editing (and twisting to fit his own odd agenda) really messed up what you might have been trying to say...

[ Parent ]
off his meds (0.00 / 0)
I think Advance Indiana is off his meds...the hate being spewed toward Andre Carson,  the constant haranguing on the Muslim issue and the attempt to prop up Elrod so that he appears to be a legitimate candidate has totally engrossed that site....it is not worth reading.

Welsh (4.00 / 1)
Ha! I didn't realize that Welsh was a Republican wingnut. I had a case against him a couple of years ago and he launched into an obscene tirade after the judge ruled against his client.  

His anger toward me has been restrained... (4.00 / 1)
...to the Internet tubes thus far. I did get quite the cold shoulder at the IE candidate forum, though.

I even gave a token smile at the first glance. No dice.


[ Parent ]
. (4.00 / 1)
It's probably because he assumes you are one of my "stooges"... he thinks you have allowed me to take over your blog....

(A little paranoia goes a long way in wingnutland!)


[ Parent ]
My lack of free will... (4.00 / 1)
...astounds me sometimes.

[ Parent ]

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